Kentucky Downs
Today's Expert Horse Racing Tips & Picks for Thu 3 Sep 2026
Discover top-rated selections, community insights, and make your informed bets.
Today's Most Popular Picks
Race 3
6 Turino
Race 6
7 Tirupati
Race 8
5 R Last Laugh
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Remington Park
Gulfstream Park
Albuquerque Downs
Penn National
Prairie Meadows
Saratoga
Remington Park
Gulfstream Park
Albuquerque Downs
Penn National
Kentucky Downs, located in Franklin, Kentucky, is unique among American racetracks as it features an all-turf, European-style course with a non-traditional, undulating layout and sweeping turns. The track's configuration challenges horses with stamina and adaptability, making it distinct from the typical American oval. Kentucky Downs is especially known for its lucrative purses during the September meet, which consistently attract top-class horses, trainers, and jockeys. Bettors should note that tactical speed and the ability to handle the course's slight rises and long stretch are key factors for success. Horses proven on turf and capable of sustaining a strong run over a testing surface generally hold the advantage here.
Thu 3 Sep 2026
Here are betting tips and picks for the
Thu 3 Sep 2026 meeting at Kentucky Downs. Use them as part of
your
research. You can also add your own tips and earn points.
Tipsters Popular Picks
These selections are ranked based on our tipsters' choices and are updated in real-time
Race 1
6
Let's Be Frank
7-2
10
Diamond Eyed Jack
4-1
8
Lahainaluna
6-1
Race 2
3
My Boy Gary
9-2
1
Sun Gate
5-2
9
Ditlihi
8-1
Race 3
6
Turino
7-2
7
Wind Flower
9-2
5
Ready to Jam
3-1
Race 4
6
Djokovic
7-2
10
Pride Rock
5-1
13
Yalta
9-2
Race 5
10
Pretty Tapit
5-2
6
Kiamba (IRE)
7-2
1
Classic Glide
9-2
Race 6
7
Tirupati
9-5
8
Little Jamie
3-1
1
Resplendence
9-2
Race 7
4
Interceptor
9-2
9
Mayor of Midnight (IRE)
4-1
3
Harrow
3-1
Race 8
5
R Last Laugh
5-2
6
Ohana Lulu
9-2
7
Ultraviolet
5-1
Race 9
5
Tawny Port
6-5
7
Navy Seal (IRE)
9-2
2
Greystone
8-1
Race 10
8
Tiz All That
5-1
9
Poseidon's Law
4-1
7
Mission Improbable
6-1
Race 11
8
Eat Hay Run
3-1
10
Rules and Regs
9-2
15
Pinch of Bourbon
6-1
Most Popular Selections
The three most backed horses across all races today
Race 3
6
Turino
12 tips
Race 6
7
Tirupati
13 tips
Race 8
5
R Last Laugh
12 tips
See who our community is backing at Kentucky Downs today. Every tip counts towards the leaderboard.
11
races
145
tips
14
tipsters
Scroll down to see picks for each race, or add your own to climb the rankings.
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Results:
1st
8
2nd
5
3rd
11
Crowd favorites:
6
7-2
10
4-1
8
6-1
The most popular bets amongst our tipsters
Ryker
13.4k points
8
Lahainaluna
6-1
6
Let's Be Frank
7-2
2
Payton's Hammer
8-1
La Vie
3.1k points
2
Payton's Hammer
8-1
8
Lahainaluna
6-1
10
Diamond Eyed Jack
4-1
Bet Brain
8.6k points
10
Diamond Eyed Jack
4-1
1
Gettleman
6-1
6
Let's Be Frank
7-2
Bradley Downes
1.9k points
10
Diamond Eyed Jack
4-1
2
Payton's Hammer
8-1
6
Let's Be Frank
7-2
J De Wit
1.9k points
10
Diamond Eyed Jack
4-1
2
Payton's Hammer
8-1
6
Let's Be Frank
7-2
Momentum Bets
5.4k points
8
Lahainaluna
6-1
6
Let's Be Frank
7-2
10
Diamond Eyed Jack
4-1
Louis Cypher
3k points
8
Lahainaluna
6-1
10
Diamond Eyed Jack
4-1
1
Gettleman
6-1
Weekly Leader
Ballywho
91.1k points
6
Let's Be Frank
7-2
10
Diamond Eyed Jack
4-1
8
Lahainaluna
6-1
Dominic
10.1k points
1
Gettleman
6-1
8
Lahainaluna
6-1
6
Let's Be Frank
7-2
Silver Picks
14k points
1
Gettleman
6-1
6
Let's Be Frank
7-2
8
Lahainaluna
6-1
Dan Alt.
17.5k points
2
Payton's Hammer
8-1
6
Let's Be Frank
7-2
10
Diamond Eyed Jack
4-1
Quick Pick
15k points
2
Payton's Hammer
8-1
1
Gettleman
6-1
6
Let's Be Frank
7-2
Paddy Turf
10.3k points
6
Let's Be Frank
7-2
12
Pax Mundi
8-1
10
Diamond Eyed Jack
4-1
🏁 Sun 30 Aug at Kentucky Downs
R1
6
Quibbler
$47.70
R2
4
Marcinkowski
$15.46
R3
9
Blast Furnace
$12.96
Tipsters' top pick won 3 of 11 races
Full results & tips →Results:
1st
14
2nd
1
3rd
11
Crowd favorites:
3
9-2
1
5-2
9
8-1
The most popular bets amongst our tipsters
Silver Picks
14k points
14
That's Fire
6-1
11
Innocent No More
5-1
9
Ditlihi
8-1
Dan Alt.
17.5k points
9
Ditlihi
8-1
14
That's Fire
6-1
7
Good Hand
12-1
Paddy Turf
10.3k points
10
Asher Dasher
10-1
14
That's Fire
6-1
1
Sun Gate
5-2
Quick Pick
15k points
3
My Boy Gary
9-2
1
Sun Gate
5-2
4
George of Will
10-1
Dominic
10.1k points
3
My Boy Gary
9-2
4
George of Will
10-1
1
Sun Gate
5-2
Ryker
13.4k points
9
Ditlihi
8-1
1
Sun Gate
5-2
14
That's Fire
6-1
Bet Brain
8.6k points
1
Sun Gate
5-2
9
Ditlihi
8-1
3
My Boy Gary
9-2
La Vie
3.1k points
10
Asher Dasher
10-1
1
Sun Gate
5-2
7
Good Hand
12-1
Bradley Downes
1.9k points
3
My Boy Gary
9-2
10
Asher Dasher
10-1
1
Sun Gate
5-2
J De Wit
1.9k points
9
Ditlihi
8-1
7
Good Hand
12-1
10
Asher Dasher
10-1
Momentum Bets
5.4k points
3
My Boy Gary
9-2
10
Asher Dasher
10-1
14
That's Fire
6-1
Weekly Leader
Ballywho
91.1k points
1
Sun Gate
5-2
3
My Boy Gary
9-2
11
Innocent No More
5-1
Louis Cypher
3k points
3
My Boy Gary
9-2
8
Bandolim
20-1
5
Captain Call
15-1
Kentucky Downs • Thu 3 Sep 2026
Race 3
•
6 1/2 Furlongs
(1300m)
•
8 runners
Race starts at
your time
Results:
1st
7
2nd
1
3rd
3
Crowd favorites:
6
7-2
7
9-2
5
3-1
The most popular bets amongst our tipsters
La Vie
3.1k points
7
Wind Flower
9-2
6
Turino
7-2
5
Ready to Jam
3-1
J De Wit
1.9k points
2
She's a Tempest
6-1
5
Ready to Jam
3-1
7
Wind Flower
9-2
Ryker
13.4k points
6
Turino
7-2
5
Ready to Jam
3-1
1
Civetta
2-1
Bet Brain
8.6k points
1
Civetta
2-1
6
Turino
7-2
5
Ready to Jam
3-1
Bradley Downes
1.9k points
6
Turino
7-2
2
She's a Tempest
6-1
5
Ready to Jam
3-1
Quick Pick
15k points
6
Turino
7-2
7
Wind Flower
9-2
1
Civetta
2-1
Silver Picks
14k points
6
Turino
7-2
7
Wind Flower
9-2
5
Ready to Jam
3-1
Paddy Turf
10.3k points
6
Turino
7-2
7
Wind Flower
9-2
5
Ready to Jam
3-1
Dominic
10.1k points
1
Civetta
2-1
6
Turino
7-2
7
Wind Flower
9-2
Dan Alt.
17.5k points
5
Ready to Jam
3-1
6
Turino
7-2
2
She's a Tempest
6-1
Momentum Bets
5.4k points
6
Turino
7-2
7
Wind Flower
9-2
2
She's a Tempest
6-1
Louis Cypher
3k points
6
Turino
7-2
1
Civetta
2-1
7
Wind Flower
9-2
Weekly Leader
Ballywho
91.1k points
1
Civetta
2-1
5
Ready to Jam
3-1
6
Turino
7-2
🏇 Also racing today
Results:
1st
10
2nd
4
3rd
11
Crowd favorites:
6
7-2
10
5-1
13
9-2
The most popular bets amongst our tipsters
Dan Alt.
17.5k points
10
Pride Rock
5-1
4
Circadian
10-1
8
Mo Misery
4-1
Quick Pick
15k points
10
Pride Rock
5-1
13
Yalta
9-2
8
Mo Misery
4-1
Dominic
10.1k points
13
Yalta
9-2
8
Mo Misery
4-1
10
Pride Rock
5-1
Silver Picks
14k points
5
Rivelli
6-1
8
Mo Misery
4-1
6
Djokovic
7-2
Paddy Turf
10.3k points
6
Djokovic
7-2
13
Yalta
9-2
11
This Time for Sure
8-1
Bet Brain
8.6k points
10
Pride Rock
5-1
6
Djokovic
7-2
8
Mo Misery
4-1
La Vie
3.1k points
10
Pride Rock
5-1
4
Circadian
10-1
6
Djokovic
7-2
J De Wit
1.9k points
11
This Time for Sure
8-1
10
Pride Rock
5-1
6
Djokovic
7-2
Ryker
13.4k points
6
Djokovic
7-2
13
Yalta
9-2
10
Pride Rock
5-1
Bradley Downes
1.9k points
4
Circadian
10-1
5
Rivelli
6-1
6
Djokovic
7-2
Momentum Bets
5.4k points
6
Djokovic
7-2
11
This Time for Sure
8-1
10
Pride Rock
5-1
Louis Cypher
3k points
5
Rivelli
6-1
6
Djokovic
7-2
10
Pride Rock
5-1
Weekly Leader
Ballywho
91.1k points
6
Djokovic
7-2
8
Mo Misery
4-1
13
Yalta
9-2
Results:
1st
10
2nd
6
3rd
1
Crowd favorites:
10
5-2
6
7-2
1
9-2
The most popular bets amongst our tipsters
Weekly Leader
Ballywho
91.1k points
10
Pretty Tapit
5-2
6
Kiamba (IRE)
7-2
1
Classic Glide
9-2
Louis Cypher
3k points
10
Pretty Tapit
5-2
6
Kiamba (IRE)
7-2
1
Classic Glide
9-2
Momentum Bets
5.4k points
6
Kiamba (IRE)
7-2
2
That Wasn't Me
6-1
1
Classic Glide
9-2
Ryker
13.4k points
10
Pretty Tapit
5-2
6
Kiamba (IRE)
7-2
2
That Wasn't Me
6-1
Bet Brain
8.6k points
10
Pretty Tapit
5-2
1
Classic Glide
9-2
6
Kiamba (IRE)
7-2
Bradley Downes
1.9k points
10
Pretty Tapit
5-2
2
That Wasn't Me
6-1
1
Classic Glide
9-2
La Vie
3.1k points
1
Classic Glide
9-2
10
Pretty Tapit
5-2
2
That Wasn't Me
6-1
J De Wit
1.9k points
2
That Wasn't Me
6-1
10
Pretty Tapit
5-2
1
Classic Glide
9-2
Dan Alt.
17.5k points
6
Kiamba (IRE)
7-2
10
Pretty Tapit
5-2
1
Classic Glide
9-2
Silver Picks
14k points
1
Classic Glide
9-2
2
That Wasn't Me
6-1
10
Pretty Tapit
5-2
Paddy Turf
10.3k points
6
Kiamba (IRE)
7-2
4
Rose Room
10-1
10
Pretty Tapit
5-2
Dominic
10.1k points
2
That Wasn't Me
6-1
6
Kiamba (IRE)
7-2
10
Pretty Tapit
5-2
Quick Pick
15k points
6
Kiamba (IRE)
7-2
1
Classic Glide
9-2
2
That Wasn't Me
6-1
Results:
1st
8
2nd
2
3rd
7
Crowd favorites:
7
9-5
8
3-1
1
9-2
The most popular bets amongst our tipsters
Ryker
13.4k points
8
Little Jamie
3-1
4
Salty Senorita
6-1
7
Tirupati
9-5
Bradley Downes
1.9k points
8
Little Jamie
3-1
6
One Sweet Girl
12-1
7
Tirupati
9-5
La Vie
3.1k points
1
Resplendence
9-2
8
Little Jamie
3-1
7
Tirupati
9-5
Bet Brain
8.6k points
4
Salty Senorita
6-1
7
Tirupati
9-5
8
Little Jamie
3-1
J De Wit
1.9k points
7
Tirupati
9-5
1
Resplendence
9-2
6
One Sweet Girl
12-1
Weekly Leader
Ballywho
91.1k points
7
Tirupati
9-5
8
Little Jamie
3-1
1
Resplendence
9-2
Louis Cypher
3k points
7
Tirupati
9-5
8
Little Jamie
3-1
1
Resplendence
9-2
Momentum Bets
5.4k points
6
One Sweet Girl
12-1
7
Tirupati
9-5
8
Little Jamie
3-1
Dan Alt.
17.5k points
7
Tirupati
9-5
8
Little Jamie
3-1
6
One Sweet Girl
12-1
Quick Pick
15k points
1
Resplendence
9-2
7
Tirupati
9-5
8
Little Jamie
3-1
Silver Picks
14k points
1
Resplendence
9-2
4
Salty Senorita
6-1
7
Tirupati
9-5
Paddy Turf
10.3k points
7
Tirupati
9-5
6
One Sweet Girl
12-1
4
Salty Senorita
6-1
Dominic
10.1k points
1
Resplendence
9-2
7
Tirupati
9-5
4
Salty Senorita
6-1
🏇 Also racing today
Results:
1st
4
2nd
2
3rd
7
Crowd favorites:
4
9-2
9
4-1
3
3-1
The most popular bets amongst our tipsters
Paddy Turf
10.3k points
4
Interceptor
9-2
1
Copper Missile
15-1
7
Proven Advocate
10-1
Dominic
10.1k points
4
Interceptor
9-2
9
Mayor of Midnight (IRE)
4-1
11
Demolition Duke
6-1
Quick Pick
15k points
11
Demolition Duke
6-1
4
Interceptor
9-2
9
Mayor of Midnight (IRE)
4-1
Dan Alt.
17.5k points
9
Mayor of Midnight (IRE)
4-1
2
The Hidden Chamber
10-1
4
Interceptor
9-2
Silver Picks
14k points
3
Harrow
3-1
11
Demolition Duke
6-1
4
Interceptor
9-2
Louis Cypher
3k points
4
Interceptor
9-2
9
Mayor of Midnight (IRE)
4-1
10
Guns and Glory
15-1
Weekly Leader
Ballywho
91.1k points
3
Harrow
3-1
9
Mayor of Midnight (IRE)
4-1
4
Interceptor
9-2
Momentum Bets
5.4k points
2
The Hidden Chamber
10-1
3
Harrow
3-1
9
Mayor of Midnight (IRE)
4-1
Bradley Downes
1.9k points
4
Interceptor
9-2
2
The Hidden Chamber
10-1
3
Harrow
3-1
Ryker
13.4k points
9
Mayor of Midnight (IRE)
4-1
4
Interceptor
9-2
11
Demolition Duke
6-1
Bet Brain
8.6k points
3
Harrow
3-1
4
Interceptor
9-2
11
Demolition Duke
6-1
La Vie
3.1k points
2
The Hidden Chamber
10-1
4
Interceptor
9-2
9
Mayor of Midnight (IRE)
4-1
J De Wit
1.9k points
9
Mayor of Midnight (IRE)
4-1
3
Harrow
3-1
2
The Hidden Chamber
10-1
Crowd favorites:
5
5-2
6
9-2
7
5-1
The most popular bets amongst our tipsters
Weekly Leader
Ballywho
91.1k points
5
R Last Laugh
5-2
6
Ohana Lulu
9-2
7
Ultraviolet
5-1
Momentum Bets
5.4k points
6
Ohana Lulu
9-2
9
Diva
20-1
5
R Last Laugh
5-2
Louis Cypher
3k points
5
R Last Laugh
5-2
2
Tatiana
6-1
6
Ohana Lulu
9-2
Dan Alt.
17.5k points
13
Viaggio
10-1
6
Ohana Lulu
9-2
5
R Last Laugh
5-2
Quick Pick
15k points
5
R Last Laugh
5-2
7
Ultraviolet
5-1
6
Ohana Lulu
9-2
Silver Picks
14k points
5
R Last Laugh
5-2
6
Ohana Lulu
9-2
2
Tatiana
6-1
Paddy Turf
10.3k points
9
Diva
20-1
6
Ohana Lulu
9-2
5
R Last Laugh
5-2
Dominic
10.1k points
5
R Last Laugh
5-2
6
Ohana Lulu
9-2
1
Blazing Sunset
8-1
Ryker
13.4k points
1
Blazing Sunset
8-1
7
Ultraviolet
5-1
13
Viaggio
10-1
Bet Brain
8.6k points
7
Ultraviolet
5-1
5
R Last Laugh
5-2
2
Tatiana
6-1
La Vie
3.1k points
5
R Last Laugh
5-2
13
Viaggio
10-1
9
Diva
20-1
Bradley Downes
1.9k points
6
Ohana Lulu
9-2
5
R Last Laugh
5-2
8
Delightful Diva
12-1
J De Wit
1.9k points
6
Ohana Lulu
9-2
5
R Last Laugh
5-2
9
Diva
20-1
Crowd favorites:
5
6-5
7
9-2
2
8-1
The most popular bets amongst our tipsters
Weekly Leader
Ballywho
91.1k points
5
Tawny Port
6-5
1
Limited Liability
3-1
7
Navy Seal (IRE)
9-2
Momentum Bets
5.4k points
5
Tawny Port
6-5
2
Greystone
8-1
1
Limited Liability
3-1
Louis Cypher
3k points
5
Tawny Port
6-5
1
Limited Liability
3-1
7
Navy Seal (IRE)
9-2
Dan Alt.
17.5k points
1
Limited Liability
3-1
7
Navy Seal (IRE)
9-2
2
Greystone
8-1
Quick Pick
15k points
2
Greystone
8-1
5
Tawny Port
6-5
7
Navy Seal (IRE)
9-2
Silver Picks
14k points
7
Navy Seal (IRE)
9-2
5
Tawny Port
6-5
2
Greystone
8-1
Paddy Turf
10.3k points
5
Tawny Port
6-5
3
Passing Game
20-1
6
Goldeneye
12-1
Dominic
10.1k points
1
Limited Liability
3-1
7
Navy Seal (IRE)
9-2
5
Tawny Port
6-5
Ryker
13.4k points
7
Navy Seal (IRE)
9-2
1
Limited Liability
3-1
2
Greystone
8-1
Bet Brain
8.6k points
2
Greystone
8-1
7
Navy Seal (IRE)
9-2
5
Tawny Port
6-5
La Vie
3.1k points
7
Navy Seal (IRE)
9-2
5
Tawny Port
6-5
2
Greystone
8-1
Bradley Downes
1.9k points
2
Greystone
8-1
5
Tawny Port
6-5
7
Navy Seal (IRE)
9-2
J De Wit
1.9k points
5
Tawny Port
6-5
7
Navy Seal (IRE)
9-2
1
Limited Liability
3-1
🏇 Also racing today
Kentucky Downs • Thu 3 Sep 2026
Race 10
•
6 1/2 Furlongs
(1300m)
•
14 runners
Race starts at
your time
Crowd favorites:
8
5-1
9
4-1
7
6-1
The most popular bets amongst our tipsters
Weekly Leader
Ballywho
91.1k points
1
Honey Dutch
3-1
9
Poseidon's Law
4-1
8
Tiz All That
5-1
Momentum Bets
5.4k points
7
Mission Improbable
6-1
8
Tiz All That
5-1
9
Poseidon's Law
4-1
Louis Cypher
3k points
8
Tiz All That
5-1
1
Honey Dutch
3-1
7
Mission Improbable
6-1
J De Wit
1.9k points
9
Poseidon's Law
4-1
3
Circle Tap
8-1
8
Tiz All That
5-1
Dan Alt.
17.5k points
3
Circle Tap
8-1
8
Tiz All That
5-1
7
Mission Improbable
6-1
Quick Pick
15k points
1
Honey Dutch
3-1
8
Tiz All That
5-1
2
Guy Smiley
6-1
Paddy Turf
10.3k points
7
Mission Improbable
6-1
3
Circle Tap
8-1
2
Guy Smiley
6-1
Dominic
10.1k points
2
Guy Smiley
6-1
8
Tiz All That
5-1
9
Poseidon's Law
4-1
Nordtänzer
4.1k points
9
Poseidon's Law
4-1
8
Tiz All That
5-1
7
Mission Improbable
6-1
Silver Picks
14k points
8
Tiz All That
5-1
9
Poseidon's Law
4-1
1
Honey Dutch
3-1
Ryker
13.4k points
7
Mission Improbable
6-1
9
Poseidon's Law
4-1
3
Circle Tap
8-1
Bet Brain
8.6k points
7
Mission Improbable
6-1
9
Poseidon's Law
4-1
2
Guy Smiley
6-1
La Vie
3.1k points
9
Poseidon's Law
4-1
3
Circle Tap
8-1
8
Tiz All That
5-1
Bradley Downes
1.9k points
7
Mission Improbable
6-1
8
Tiz All That
5-1
9
Poseidon's Law
4-1
Crowd favorites:
8
3-1
10
9-2
15
6-1
The most popular bets amongst our tipsters
Weekly Leader
Ballywho
91.1k points
8
Eat Hay Run
3-1
3
Sutura
4-1
10
Rules and Regs
9-2
Momentum Bets
5.4k points
15
Pinch of Bourbon
6-1
3
Sutura
4-1
8
Eat Hay Run
3-1
Louis Cypher
3k points
10
Rules and Regs
9-2
8
Eat Hay Run
3-1
2
Cynical Humor
6-1
J De Wit
1.9k points
8
Eat Hay Run
3-1
3
Sutura
4-1
10
Rules and Regs
9-2
Dan Alt.
17.5k points
6
Breakout Ready
15-1
14
Abita Springs
10-1
8
Eat Hay Run
3-1
Quick Pick
15k points
10
Rules and Regs
9-2
8
Eat Hay Run
3-1
15
Pinch of Bourbon
6-1
Paddy Turf
10.3k points
15
Pinch of Bourbon
6-1
2
Cynical Humor
6-1
14
Abita Springs
10-1
Dominic
10.1k points
15
Pinch of Bourbon
6-1
12
Paris Twilight
8-1
8
Eat Hay Run
3-1
Nordtänzer
4.1k points
10
Rules and Regs
9-2
15
Pinch of Bourbon
6-1
3
Sutura
4-1
Silver Picks
14k points
10
Rules and Regs
9-2
8
Eat Hay Run
3-1
15
Pinch of Bourbon
6-1
Ryker
13.4k points
8
Eat Hay Run
3-1
10
Rules and Regs
9-2
2
Cynical Humor
6-1
Bet Brain
8.6k points
8
Eat Hay Run
3-1
15
Pinch of Bourbon
6-1
10
Rules and Regs
9-2
La Vie
3.1k points
10
Rules and Regs
9-2
15
Pinch of Bourbon
6-1
8
Eat Hay Run
3-1
Bradley Downes
1.9k points
6
Breakout Ready
15-1
3
Sutura
4-1
15
Pinch of Bourbon
6-1
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